The Value of Apex Predators

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By DoItForHer

My first hand experiences with predators

Hi Ariel,

You’ve probably been hearing a lot about the wolves and the perceived problems of those wolves massacring large populations of livestock. You may have read the local article about the hunters on horseback who were supposedly attacked by a pack of wolves. Surely, you’ve seen the bumper stickers: “Smoke a Pack a Day”, “Save a Rancher- Shoot a Wolf”, etc. Recently Governor Schweitzer formally issued a policy of not prosecuting people who shoot wolves outside of any hunting season or for protection. The question of the day in the local paper asked if the reader approves of the governor’s decision to openly violate federal law to shoot wolves. 87% favored the governor’s decision.

It’s getting silly.

Here are some facts and my perceptions to give you a more balanced insight of the impact of wolves in Montana.

I grew up in a small town at the base of the Rocky Mountains. When I was a kid, I spent a great deal of time messing around in the woods as that was my back yard. I didn’t have bowling alleys, fast food restaurants, shopping malls, and many of the things that people living in the city take for granted. My school had little to offer in the way of extracurricular activities, so what did that leave me? The woods. A great deal of my youth was spent hiking or bicycling in areas where wolves, mountain lions, grizzlies, and wolverines lived. I even played around when it was dark and you know how many times I was confronted by a wild animal?

Twice.

It was two separate occasions and those two animals were a badger and a skunk and that was because I was throwing rocks at them.

Do you know what happens when you see a mountain lion watching you from the elevated branches of a tree. It watches you. That’s it. Then when you look at it, raise your hands in the air, and say, “Boogala, boogala!” it flips a 180 in the air like a startled house cat and runs away.

Yet I constantly hear people talking about how dangerous mountain lions are and if you see one, you must train your gun on it and walk away slowly, never taking your eyes off of it.

Ridiculous.

If a 12-year-old boy can spend a good deal of his life growing up in the wilds of the Rocky Mountains with no dangerous encounters, then the stories of how dangerous wild animals are are greatly exaggerated. Large predators are serious animals and should not be taken lightly, but the reality of the threat they truly pose has become mythical.

When I was 19 I spent a few months in Florida near the Everglades. A friend asked me if I wanted to visit the Everglades and I said, “Sure! That would be awesome!” Well, we jumped right in and began wading through a primeval type of wilderness. I immediately voiced my concerns about alligators, snakes, wild boars and such. He briefly explained the real dangers of what to look for. When we saw a snake swimming by, he didn’t freak out, he let it swim by. When we saw an alligator, we simply walked by.

I realized that I was exhibiting the same fears my childhood friends from the large cities were exhibiting when they came up to Lincoln for vacation. Many of them would not so much as step off the dirt road to play in the woods. Once I let my unrealistic fears go (which took all of two minutes), I had a great time in the Florida wilderness.

Wolves, coyotes, and antelope

Without wolves, coyotes fill the niche of being the top predator. Coyotes like baby antelope and when the coyote population gets too high, antelope populations suffer. When wolves move back in, they displace coyotes. The smaller coyote population results in a higher antelope population. This is good for hunters.

Biodiversity

When wolves are gone from the ecosystem, elk and deer can forage much more safely. When the deer and elk aren’t constantly moving, they overgraze the Aspen and Cottonwood saplings. In some areas, there are Aspen that are 50 years old or more with few younger trees to replace them. Not having Aspens may not sound bad, but when you break the balance, there are always consequences.

Cottonwoods grow along riverbanks. They hold the soil from excessive erosion. Too much erosion and farmers and ranchers lose valuable land. Fish populations suffer from creeks and rivers that are too silty. Fisherman and landowners suffer greatly from this negative consequence.

Willows also hold the creek and river banks from excessive erosion. Elk and deer love willows. Wolves keep elk and deer and the move, which prevents overgrazing. Birds, beavers, and other animals are now thriving again where wolves have been reintroduced. Beavers are often viewed as a nuisance, but they do help fill underground reservoirs and increased fishing opportunities with their ponds. Beaver ponds may not sound like much, but they certainly have value.

Current elk populations and hunting

But wolves like to hunt elk calves. So having wolves must be bad for the elk hunters, right? Not so much. Most of our elk populations are steady. So why are we finding fewer elk during hunting season? Because the elk are on the move and are now harder to hunt. We need to become better sportsmen if we want to bag an elk. It would be nice if they stood around more so we could get a better shot at them, but we have been spoiled. Just because we don’t see elk around as much, does not mean the elk populations are down significantly due to wolves.

Tourism

I don’t like tourism; I would like to keep Montana more to myself, but I can’t deny the amount of money that comes in from tourists. By having wolves, mountain lions and the increased biodiversity that results from that, tourists bring in more money.

Wolves are predators, though

Wolves do prey on livestock. That is a real problem that needs to be addressed. Ranches have become accustomed to only dealing with coyotes, feral dogs, and other lethal threats to their livelihood. Instead of shooting wolves outright, those ranchers need to employ guard dogs, fladry, fencing, etc. But that costs money. Losing land to erosion costs money, too. Losing fishing habitat is a big cost to many ranchers who are also fisherman. What is the balance? I’m not sure, but part of the problem is that we need to change and make a better effort to live with our environment instead of razing down anything that is a problem.

The federal government's response

The federal government also has a monetary compensation fund to compensate ranchers for their losses due to wolf predation. It sounds like a good program, but I am ignorant of how well this program really is. Have not researched this well enough.

The government can be really screwed up, but I do have a good example of how a government should work. Back in the late 70's, early 80’s a parasitic pest called the Screwfly would lay its eggs in the open wounds of livestock on just about any animal it could get it’s dirty little legs on. Unlike other maggots, these little buggers had no problem eating live flesh and could cause great suffering potentially killing its host. Not only was being eating alive and the resulting infections horrific, it cost the cattle industry many millions of dollars-maybe billions. Then the government got an idea. They irradiated male Screwflies making them sterile. Those sterile flies would mate with the females, but because the dudes were shooting blanks, the eggs would not develop. In a short time, the Screwfly became extinct in the U.S. What a huge success story!

But you could not get something like that to happen now. Too many lawsuits from too many treehuggers would create near endless delays. We would see “Save the Screwfly” t-shirts and bumpers stickers all over the place. The government would do decades of studies to evaluate the consequences -both positive and negative- of eradicating such a pest. I don’t think we have to worry about the loss of wolves because of today’s red tape, but we will have to worry about poor, untimely bureaucratic management harming not only the wolves, but the residents of Montana.

In this respect I have to applaud our governor for stopping the stifling efforts of our federal government that is too often out-of-touch with our local needs, but he needs to be careful about going too far the other way, renewing old problems for our state.

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The real threats to livestock

Wolves are not the biggest concern to loss of cattle. They are only above bears with everything else being a more lethal threat. In the sheep loss bar chart, wolves do not have their own category, but instead are lumped in the "All Other Predators" category. Despite this, we can still get a good idea of the relatively limited lethal impact wolves have on sheep.

So why do we spend an inordinate amount of time getting all angry and negative trying to delist and eradicate the wolf when other more lethal threats should be demanding more of our attention? I don’t know. People tend to see the worst in things and not look at things for what they really are. If we spent that time, money, and energy into other areas that pose risks that are hundreds of times greater than wolves, I can't see how our livestock populations wouldn't improve.

What is the answer?

I can’t tell you specifically what a good answer would be. What I can definitively tell you is that we need to settle down and look at the situation for what it really is. Wolves should not be ignored; neither should we be spending the disproportionate amount of time, money, and energy that we are currently spending on them. There are times when wolves should be shot. If I caught a wolf stalking my livestock, it would be dead; that is fair. But eradicating the species of wolf based too much on emotion while allowing other far more lethal killers to continue to have the impact that they do is counter-intuitive.

Education is a big part of the answer. Angry mob-like mentality is not. I truly hope you have the integrity not to jump in with the mob, but if you have, you can always back out and opt for a more realistic view point of our apex predators, our environment, and everyone who shares it.

Love You Oodles and Gobs,
Dad :)

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Wesman Todd Shaw 15 months ago

SAVE THE SCREW FLIES! NO JUSTICE NO PEACE!!!

Why don't people want to hunt and kill coyotes so much? Why do wolves get so much hatred, seems like their is plenty of hatred to go round; surely the coyotes need some too? Of course the lone wolf will mate with a coyote from time to time, and eventually you get big coyotes, which is what we've got here in East Texas.

Man, honestly, I'm scared of mountain lions; but I've never seen one in the wild. I'm told the catamount is around here though. I just worry that if I'm cruising along on my mountain bike that one will think "hey, bet it would be fun to grab that ugly boy from the back of the neck, and pull him off that bike! Yeah, I'm positive that that would be cool, I'm going to get out of this tree, and give that a try."

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DoItForHer Hub Author 15 months ago

Todd, coyotes are hunted extensively, but unlike the slow recovery of wolves, coyotes breed like rabbits. You can go out in a helicopter and shoot coyotes all day long for months at a time and still not make an appreciable impact. Coyotes are eerily resilient that way.

The wolves here have a strong inclination to kill coyotes, but interbreeding probably occurs more than we think. Especially when one considers the low populations of wolves and the need to breed. I could see the smaller, more submissive wolf that got kicked out of the pack breeding with the occasional coyote.

Mountain Lions are a powerful animal. Even when everything is good and safe, just looking at a wild one in the wild is intimidating. The power they exude is incredible.

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Wesman Todd Shaw 15 months ago

Yeah, wolves will definitely kill coyotes; but only if food is scarce. Of course they don't kill them for any other reason except to reduce their competition.

I'm convinced wolves have some good logic going with what they do.

Hey Willie, I saw a hub on here titled something like, "What to do in case of a wolf attack!!!!"

I was like, "wtf?"

But this person was serious. I've read time and again that there has never been a proven case of a non rabid wolf attack of a person in North America. This woman, however, was not just telling stories of wolves attacking people; she had wolves eating humans whole! I mean, . . .no wonder they can't prove that non rabid wolves attack people, they just eat them completely, right?

Yeah, the mountain lion. I hear screams in the distance; don't know if it's a bobcat, the big cat, or. . .maybe a peacock?

I'm told you can just throw rocks at a Cougar, and it will say, "yo homes, eff' this stuff, I'm out"

But if you are running, jogging, or biking or something, and don't see one; it could get ugly.

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DoItForHer Hub Author 15 months ago

Several years ago I was getting a second load of firewood, so it was late in the day. I got a flat tire and put the spare on. Then I went about another quarter of a mile and got another flat! Unbelievable.

I was about 3 miles as the crow flies away from the main highway, but around 6 to 7 miles by road. As it was getting dark, I opted to take the road instead of clambering down the side of the mountain.

The moon had waned to a crescent; I could hardly see the gravel road it was so dark. I could hear something following me off the side of the road, something of some size of a bear or a mountain lion. (Grass moving, branches breaking, etc. No growls or such.)

But I wasn't scared because I wasn't injured nor was I a child or otherwise easy prey. Also, because I didn't start acting like an idiot because of some made up fear, I gave the animal no reason to attack me. After about 15 minutes of this, it left.

No big deal. That is exactly how a healthy, wild animal acts.

However, lock me up in a N.O.W. convention, and I will shit my pants with fear!

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Wesman Todd Shaw 15 months ago

Hey Willie, I appropriated an Outdoor Life Magazine from the nursing home yesterday. I just couldn't see what any of those old women could be using it for.

Low and behold, on page eleven it says "Run For It!"

and in smaller print; " New study shows,fleeing the scene might be your best bet when confronted by a mountain lion."

I haven't read that one yet.I might do that as soon as I drink some coffee. I've been meaning to write a hub about Mountain Lions. I'll be interested to see why I should try to run away from something that loves to chase and take down things dumb enough to flee from it.

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DoItForHer Hub Author 15 months ago

(Pilfering from old people. That's low! lol ) I've never heard of that. Most everything I run from chases me; it's a universal thing. I suppose it could be a good thing if you were suicidal or masochistic. Can you give me the magazine date? I'd like to read that.

There is a group of people who believe that wolves do not have a hierarchical society, and therefore, a submissive/domination approach is unwarranted and even harmful. Nearly every type of social animal has this universal structure where the animals have varying ranks within the family. The only animal that I can think of that deviates from that is the Naked Mole Rat; these homely critters act more like insects in a hive.

Doesn't matter how universal a behavior is, someone will dispute it and come up with a different way to rationalize it.

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Wesman Todd Shaw 15 months ago

Outdoor Life, August 2009, and on page 11. It's a study from the university of California, Davis. . . .wherever that is.

Funk, I could practically type the whole thing here, I was disappointed. I thought it was going to be more Three paragraphs.

I think the article is stupid, but it's not half so stupid as the person who thinks that dogs and other canines don't have a social hierarchy. If me and you were dogs, and there was steak on the table, we'd either be working out who was top dog, or that would have already been established . . . .with a bit of hierarchical pain. I'm sure of it, and you know it for the fact that it is already.

bruce 5 weeks ago

Incredible article. Very balanced. My we republish it? Let me know at 4starchief@gmail.com

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DoItForHer Hub Author 4 weeks ago

Another thing I thought of that seems obvious to me now is buffalo roamed enmass and were prey to the wolf. Since the buffalo are now relegated to very small locations, I wonder if wolf predation on elk is disproportionate?

This does not change my point; it is another example of trying to understand the original biodiversity to our benefit instead of figuring out another way to eradicate them to our overall detriment.

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Wesman Todd Shaw 4 weeks ago

What is this person talking about? REPUBLISH?

Very likely, he's already copied it...that happens.

Hell, who knows - it is definitely a great article.

I can't help but think that wolves would only get ahold of elderly, sick, or very young buffalo, but I'm due to ...attempt a good Gray Wolf article...the three wolf articles I've done...sucked.

Glad I saw this in the "stream." I don't recall ANY of the conversation up above!

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DoItForHer Hub Author 4 weeks ago

I'm cool with him/her using the article if good comes of it.

I've went back & read stuff I've written and am surprised at what I've forgotten. Some of my comments were quite good while others were so bad that I am embarrassed.

An adult buffalo is too big for even a pack of wolves. Babies and other weaklings are usually targeted. Wolves also scavenge.

BaggyGravy 13 days ago

What i'm Afraid of, are feral boars. they aren't that bad, but one broke my leg with its charge

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DoItForHer Hub Author 13 days ago

I've wanted to go bow hunting for boars but we have none in Montana. Not sure why; boars are in Russia, so why haven't feral boars in the u.s. migrated farther north?

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